Here's one for you steve. If you hit the white ball and it's going in off and you know it is, then you grab the white just before it goes in and put it in the D, the second your opposition picks up the white, it's a foul? As the white technically didn't leave the table.
I believe you may be referring to what happened in the Selby & Dott match (see video below) however what you describe is picking the white up and placing it in the D which would actually be a foul against the player who picks the white up because it has "left the bed of the table".
Snooker - Was that a foul or not? (Snooker Tournament 2009 - 27.04.09) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1sDiLapr0g#ws-normal)
At least i know now :thumbup:
With regard to the previous scenarios. If the white is going in the pocket, which would be a foul, and the offending player picks the white off the bed of the table and rolls it towards the 'D' - the ref picks it up and places it against the back rail and the non-striker steps forward and places it in the 'D' then surely THAT cant be a foul ?.
The ref shouldn't have picked the white up because it came to rest on the bed of the table and was therefore still in play.
If the ref realizes his mistake he should put the white back where he moved it from. If he doesn't (he obviously thinks the cue ball is in hand) then unless either player challenges his decision play should continue with ball in hand.
The referees decision is always final, even if he is wrong!
Steve where do you find all these video's...?
Getting a bit technical !!. If the ball is 'rolling towards the 'D' or the back rail and the non-striker asks him (the ref) to clean the ball, he then put it back from where he picked it up. Considering that the ref has handled the ball can the new striker move the ball to a position of his choice inside the 'D' OR does he have to play from where the ref repositioned the ball - even if he is snookered.
Who'd be a ref ! !