Referee's corner - Interesting Scenario

[maqsood]

Alan Cunningham, perhaps with your vast experience Alan Cunningham, you may shed some light on this one. Others feel free to comment as well.

The following scenario happened in a match and I wont say which players were involved (they are not from Nottingham) but I would like your points of view on the matter;


Player A is Playing Player B. There are 2 reds remaining. One red is hanging on the end of the yellow pocket covering the whole pocket and it is impossible to pot a colour in that pocket. The other red is in the middle of the table near the pink. The blue, pink and black are all hanging on the edge of 3 different pockets. Yellow green and brown are in open play.

Player A is 33 points ahead and is at the table. He is snookered on the red hanging on the yellow pocket and has a pot on for the other red. He pots that red but lands awkward and has no colour  available .H e cannot pot blue, pink or black because he is snookered on them. He is in a tricky position because a safety shot off a colour is not easy because of the red hanging on the yellow pocket. He is also aware of the black also hanging on another pocket. At this point Player A is now 34 points ahead with 35 still on and is well aware that his opponent will more than certainly get a the last red with a black if given a chance. So player A must play a colour. Player A nominates the brown and rolls it with enough pace towards the red on the yellow pocket and pots the red, now leaving the brown at the edge of the yellow pocket. This obviously is a foul of 4 points and so Player A is now 30 points ahead with 27 on i.e player B now needs a snooker.

As player B comes to the table he asks Player A "did you do that deliberately?" Player A plays Mr innocent and claims he tried to rest the brown in front of the red hoping to leave Player B snookered on the red. Player B fully aware of this nonsense as it was impossible to do that with the red so close to the edge of the pocket.

I am sure you will all agree that Player A has gained a massive advantage after deliberately playing a foul.

Is there any ruling on this??

Bash

[Mike Langdon]

Who'd be a ref  :laugh:

I guess it would come down to the refs interpretation and he could I think warn the player for ungentlemanly conduct but that's about it. Seem to recall something similar happening with John Parrott.

You would have to question why he didn't just tuck up behind the brown or could he have played it towards the red but not directly at it to cover it. I would guess due to some smart thinking that he weighed up his options and deliberately fouled. May have looked better if he blasted the brown at the red and claimed he was trying to move it away from pocket.

Think I'll stop rambling cause basically I have no idea  :laugh: :laugh:

[maqsood]

Curiosity killed the cat - i know you all want top know who Player A and Player B are so i best let the cat out of the bag.........

Player A was Sean Hopkin and Player B was my gran.

you should be ashamed of yourself Sean, beating a 104 year old women in a wheelchair in that way.

God, some people just want to win at any cost !!!

For that reason Sean, my grans changed her mind and she not giving you a lift to willie's in her electric wheelchair.

Bash

[maqsood]

cheers mike - it really is a trick one

Bash

[seansnooker]

You do make me laugh Bash :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Next frame she knocked a 131 in, I was amazed, That electric wheelchair has super powers,  :thumbup:

[Daniel]

If there is a legal shot possible and the ref deems the foul to be deliberate then he should award the frame to player B.  If you deliberately foul you forfeit the frame.  The only exception is if there is no legal shot possible.

Mike's right that it is down to the ref to decide whether player A fouled deliberately.  It's impossible to play this rule without a ref really.

Frame to Bash's Gran if I was the ref.